Nate is joined on this episode by Columbia law student Safia Southey and thoracic surgeon Dr. Amgad Elsherif.
Safia participated in the encampment at Columbia that helped to spark similar protests at campuses across North America. She speaks to the importance of protest, the role students can play in raising awareness and affecting change, and the need to differentiate between criticism of Israel and antisemitism.
Dr. Amgad Elsherif is a thoracic surgeon based in Ontario who has been on the ground in Gaza to provide emergency medical care. He shares his firsthand experiences of the devastating impact of the war on children in Gaza, including the impacts of the inability to access basic medical supplies.
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction and Background of the Guests
01:24 The Distinction Between Criticism of Israel and Anti-Semitism
with guest Safia Southey (3:00)
3:00 Safia’s Background and Initial Involvement
05:10 Details of the Columbia Encampment
07:44 Safia’s Personal Motivations and Experiences
12:42 Addressing Antisemitism and Criticism of Israel
20:23 Complexities of Zionism and Palestinian Rights
20:45 The Complexity of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict
24:43 The Need for a Ceasefire and Protection of Civilian Lives
32:04 Challenges Faced by Student Protesters at Columbia University
34:26 Media Coverage of the Crackdown
36:46 Threats and Intimidation by the School
with guest Dr. Amgad Elsherif (43:18)
44:12 The Reality on the Ground in Gaza
53:08 Effectiveness of IDF Messages to Civilians
59:15 The Human Impact of War on Children
01:02:51 Recognition of a Palestinian State
Protests and Palestine with Safia Southey and Dr. Amgad Elsherif