It’s a non-binding MOU so a lot of water has to flow over the dam before we get an idea of what it will actually mean down the road. It does, however, quite clearly confirm that Carney’s enthusiasm for addressing climate change is illusory. It’s an act. It’s virtue-signalling, just as is his support for a Palestinian state while he steadfastly declines to recognize the Israel genocide.
For those of us with kids and grandkids, Carney is working hard to prove that our initial favourable impression and optimism about his tenure was misguided. He’s proving to care more about corporate Canada than he does about Canadians. And we now know that we can take nothing he says at face value. That’s discouraging.
I suggest Mr. Erskine-Smith do his homework. His column is fact free from the point of view from BC: Nothing about the environmental damage the pipeline will cause. Pipelines are not earthquake proof. They rupture and spill their contents, contaminating the land for generations. Hecate Strait is a violent body of water. The buoy at the south end of Hecate Strait measures 30 metre waves. Sometimes the seabed is visible due to extreme wave action. BC’s economy depends on a healthy coast for tourism, fisheries, lumber and so much more. Lifting the tanker ban, which has been in place since 1972 will cost BC billions of dollars. Oil contaminated salmon, anyone? Yum yum. What good is oil soaked lumber? First Nations deserve better, BC deserves better, Canada deserves better.
So what is the option? Sign on as the 51st State? It’s always easy to be critical of people making bold decisions. We need Nation building projects, we need them now and we need to be able to attract private investment to pay for them. Is there no case to be made for replacing coal burning energy (Asia) with a cleaner source? Yes, it may feel like backsliding but I’m not convinced that we were on course to achieve many of our previous targets. Where was the outrage when EV car manufacturers said no, it’s not happening. Not that they didn’t try but Canadians just weren’t buying them in numbers.
Why are you still a member of the LPC, Nate? Seems undeniable that you have no influence on policy. Is it merely to greenwash, or is there some deeper plan at play? Why not cross the floor and join the 7 NDP MPs? That would be a real political statement.
A more realistic pace to net zero is a welcome reset. The rhetoric of net zero 2050 still adorns the message as it might for another 15 years until it is clear to most that our decarbonization path will be more on the order of 50+ years. In any case we should be benchmarking our climate goals to the average of the world’s major emitters (the US, China, India and the EU). There’s little point of being a “climate leader” and undermining our economy and security to do so. It’s enough that we keep up with the pack.
Regarding the MOU specifically I worry much more about a major bitumen spill that no one has ever had to deal with before either on land or water.
Canada has never been a climate leader. It's been an intentional "big talk, little action" strategy since Kyoto (Signed as a "publicity stunt" as Chrétien's chief of staff put it). Our average carbon emissions per capita is more than double that of the EU or China. We very much ARE one of the world's major emitters. (Not measuring emissions per capita is a white supremacist argument).
We made a half-hearted commitment to constructing an adequate number of charging sites; the domestic NA manufacturers focused on electrifying their larger most expensive vehicles; and we banned the importation of Chinese EV's. How many purchasers of EV's regretted the purchase? Very few.
Albertans and Canadians have been relentlessly lied to, non-stop by conservative-aligned politicians and think tank propagandists.
In 2014, Saudi Arabia and OPEC launched a multi-year price war aimed at bankrupting North American oil operations. The price of oil dropped 70% in two years, and it was the sharpest, steepest drop in the price of oil in history. In 2019, Trump urged lower prices again.
In 2021-22, Saudi Arabia, OPEC and some US oil producers again fixed the market, this time collaborating on not producing. The results were the highest profits in history, including in Canada. It led to a huge spike in global inflation. The money all went to shareholders and bondholders.
These events are multiple orders of magnitude greater anything ever done by the Federal Government.
The fact that two of the most significant global events in the oil industry have basically been written out of history and out public debate is equally appalling.
Nate, I’d like to see you in a cabinet position. I love that you don’t bite your tongue. The NDP need a viable leader…have they approached you yet? Does Carney listen to anyone? Serious question. He wants interprovincial cooperation, but how tight/impermeable is his inner circle?
Judging from this piece, Carney doesn't listen to anyone. Walks into a room of experts, blathers on in love with the sound of his own voice, walks out before anyone can respond.
It’s a non-binding MOU so a lot of water has to flow over the dam before we get an idea of what it will actually mean down the road. It does, however, quite clearly confirm that Carney’s enthusiasm for addressing climate change is illusory. It’s an act. It’s virtue-signalling, just as is his support for a Palestinian state while he steadfastly declines to recognize the Israel genocide.
For those of us with kids and grandkids, Carney is working hard to prove that our initial favourable impression and optimism about his tenure was misguided. He’s proving to care more about corporate Canada than he does about Canadians. And we now know that we can take nothing he says at face value. That’s discouraging.
Im very sad about this agreement. This province has an authoritarian leader!
I suggest Mr. Erskine-Smith do his homework. His column is fact free from the point of view from BC: Nothing about the environmental damage the pipeline will cause. Pipelines are not earthquake proof. They rupture and spill their contents, contaminating the land for generations. Hecate Strait is a violent body of water. The buoy at the south end of Hecate Strait measures 30 metre waves. Sometimes the seabed is visible due to extreme wave action. BC’s economy depends on a healthy coast for tourism, fisheries, lumber and so much more. Lifting the tanker ban, which has been in place since 1972 will cost BC billions of dollars. Oil contaminated salmon, anyone? Yum yum. What good is oil soaked lumber? First Nations deserve better, BC deserves better, Canada deserves better.
So what is the option? Sign on as the 51st State? It’s always easy to be critical of people making bold decisions. We need Nation building projects, we need them now and we need to be able to attract private investment to pay for them. Is there no case to be made for replacing coal burning energy (Asia) with a cleaner source? Yes, it may feel like backsliding but I’m not convinced that we were on course to achieve many of our previous targets. Where was the outrage when EV car manufacturers said no, it’s not happening. Not that they didn’t try but Canadians just weren’t buying them in numbers.
You sound indoctrinated into big oil propaganda. Look into what a tiny percentage of our economy oil and gas represent. There are plenty of options.
Why are you still a member of the LPC, Nate? Seems undeniable that you have no influence on policy. Is it merely to greenwash, or is there some deeper plan at play? Why not cross the floor and join the 7 NDP MPs? That would be a real political statement.
I think that Coastal Nations and BC should tell the premier of Alberta that oil tankers disrupt their pristine viewscape.
A more realistic pace to net zero is a welcome reset. The rhetoric of net zero 2050 still adorns the message as it might for another 15 years until it is clear to most that our decarbonization path will be more on the order of 50+ years. In any case we should be benchmarking our climate goals to the average of the world’s major emitters (the US, China, India and the EU). There’s little point of being a “climate leader” and undermining our economy and security to do so. It’s enough that we keep up with the pack.
Regarding the MOU specifically I worry much more about a major bitumen spill that no one has ever had to deal with before either on land or water.
Canada has never been a climate leader. It's been an intentional "big talk, little action" strategy since Kyoto (Signed as a "publicity stunt" as Chrétien's chief of staff put it). Our average carbon emissions per capita is more than double that of the EU or China. We very much ARE one of the world's major emitters. (Not measuring emissions per capita is a white supremacist argument).
We made a half-hearted commitment to constructing an adequate number of charging sites; the domestic NA manufacturers focused on electrifying their larger most expensive vehicles; and we banned the importation of Chinese EV's. How many purchasers of EV's regretted the purchase? Very few.
Albertans and Canadians have been relentlessly lied to, non-stop by conservative-aligned politicians and think tank propagandists.
In 2014, Saudi Arabia and OPEC launched a multi-year price war aimed at bankrupting North American oil operations. The price of oil dropped 70% in two years, and it was the sharpest, steepest drop in the price of oil in history. In 2019, Trump urged lower prices again.
In 2021-22, Saudi Arabia, OPEC and some US oil producers again fixed the market, this time collaborating on not producing. The results were the highest profits in history, including in Canada. It led to a huge spike in global inflation. The money all went to shareholders and bondholders.
These events are multiple orders of magnitude greater anything ever done by the Federal Government.
The fact that two of the most significant global events in the oil industry have basically been written out of history and out public debate is equally appalling.
https://open.substack.com/pub/dougaldlamont/p/natural-gaslighting-mark-carney-and?r=9gk0j&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false
Nate, I’d like to see you in a cabinet position. I love that you don’t bite your tongue. The NDP need a viable leader…have they approached you yet? Does Carney listen to anyone? Serious question. He wants interprovincial cooperation, but how tight/impermeable is his inner circle?
Judging from this piece, Carney doesn't listen to anyone. Walks into a room of experts, blathers on in love with the sound of his own voice, walks out before anyone can respond.
https://dougaldlamont.substack.com/p/natural-gaslighting-mark-carney-and